I Don’t Have To Respond Each Time There is a Killing

Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves of St. Vincent and the Grenadines. | Photo: Reuters

Prime Minister Gonsalves responding to the recent killings over the weekend said,  some of the homicides are an absence of restraint murder, people just don’t know how to solve their problems by peaceful means, he said.

He further said that some are related to associational groupings, where one set of persons having arguments over this or that, with other sets of individuals.

And others he said are of nefarious purposes or causes, maybe drugs or things connected to criminal activity of one kind or the other.

Gonsalves said at the heart of it is the ease at which people get guns, given the fact that they come out of the united states and slip in here and there throughout the various ports of entry and also those areas where you don’t have ports of entry.

“Each of the different crimes has to be dealt with differently, various kinds of policing, different social responses.”

“ However, I just want to say, not every time there is a killing I have to respond because I speak all the time, and what I said here today, I have said repeatedly”.

Gonsalves pointed out that the government had spent a lot of resources on the police, involving training, cooperating with regional and international agencies, and of those which he cant speak publicly about.

The Prime Minister stated that with all the things which are being done by the government, citizen security must be at the top of the agenda.

Gonsalves was at the time speaking about the relief efforts for the islands when he was asked by Press Secretary Hans  Kings about the homicides.

21 Comments

  1. I’m not sure what the government is to do it they call a state of emergency and ask for outside help that may be a littl to much we as a people have to speak up about who is doing these killing and feel safe doing so. The police have to be trusted by the community. I’m sad that my birth place had become a battle ground. I have family there still and Sunday I couldn’t reach my sister and I had a panic attack after calling everyone in the house thanks God they were out with their job. God please help

    • Excellent question Eugena! You may have noticed our sky-high crime rate for our small population did not happen overnight. It started in earnest as our jobs started leaving the country, primarily bananas and agriculture. Eventually these jobless want a better life but have little or no means to get anything. People that have jobs may not be rich but they then at least have hope and a higher self-esteem. Our present Prime Minister believes he can continue to raise taxes, fees, and essentially everything and do so with NO ill consequences (at least not to him). He cares little for the people, he only wants to show that the government is getting more and more revenue every year. But, the economy has gotten much poorer since the ULP took over.
      What Ralph needs to do is reverse his dependence on causing AUSTERITY FOR THE VINCENTIAN PEOPLE and instead a little austerity for the government (to lead by example). He needs to lower the Corporate Income tax…VERY MUCH! He needs to cut Customs Duty by around 70% as well as slowly cut the size of the Public Service by about 50-60%. There is more he needs to do, but if you get my point, such measures encourage investment (see Singapore) and potential criminals will instead be occupied with a job and education instead of “doing a job”. Ralph Gonsalves has stated he has to raise taxes to create jobs…What!?!…He is LOST! If he does not change we will continue down loser street.
      With loser economics we will continue to have a loser economy and a growing crime rate.

    • You are so right, Ralph how can you be running a country and have no ideas in mind of how to cease some of the crime thats affecting your country.
      Here’s some ideas put the country on a 6am to 6pm curfew, have other countries help you out by bringing in some soilders to do daily home raids, all police officers on duty should have no access to phones because of the simple fact you dont know who’s a dirty cop, make changes in the criminal justice system(servere punishment) even hanging. Get some water police to patrol for any illegally activities. Get more surveillance camera install on street lights especially in the villages most affected by crime. Have onduty securities at the entry ports to search individuals leaving and entering the island. The list goes on. Mr prime minister about you dont have to always say something. We need you you do. Since you got elected svg done thru..

      • That is very severe but if Ralph Gonsalves continues his terrible rule the situation may get so bad that some of those measures may have to be implemented. Of course the water police should have been implemented long ago.

  2. Is it only now there is an absence of restraint murder, and people don’t know how solve their problems by peaceful means, along with all the other excuses the PM is saying. This was happening a long time ago and he blamed Mitchell and Toussaint for the crimes in the NDP time. So who should we blame now?

    • Yes Ralph Gonsalves is the master of shifting the blame on others for his doing…He wants others to believe he is flawless. Essentially he cares little or nothing for the country. He cares for Ralph and friends and progeny, the rest can die as far as he is concerned, and that is what many of us are doing…dying. Any words about love and caring are just lip-service.

      • Ralp Ralph Ralph Ralph is that all the abandon pet knows. When the day of judgment comes lets see if Ralph will answer to any of those killing. Hatred like this is what is dividing us. You still seeing the pitures in black and white thats why you only pointing fingers in one direction. Right now the place ah run red and we need to be the solution and not the problem.

        • Champ…It all starts with leadership. The point of all this is that WE DO NOT HAVE ANY! We have a LIP-SERVICE leader that thinks his greed, tough talk, royal face and expensive suits will save the country.
          You are right, Ralph loves to divide the country. He makes people think the only way for them to go is join the ULP. Then free lumber poor relief and more respect will come to them. But he cannot guarantee protection under the law for anyone.
          We will continue to have a loser country as long as we have a loser Prime Minister. Anything he does is always very poorly thought out. It will take time to solve the out of control crime rate in SVG but the correct measures have to be put in place, not always higher taxes and fees. That is exactly the WRONG thing to do! At the moment Ralph is taking us backward.
          Those that worship Ralph indirectly worship crime ignorance and poverty.

  3. I always like your comments. Very well analyzed with references to related incidents. You also bring up facts that I/we seem to forget in some ways, such as Yes! Ralph is our minister of security. If he can’t stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen and let someone else take over. I think Ralph is over his head (no reference to King Charles) in his positions as Minister of Finance and Minister or Security as well as Prime Minister. Any non-arrogant individual would resign but it seems he is going to stay (with the help of the doltish)until we are flushed completely down the toilet.

  4. Very Good! Ralph is just trying to distract us from the real causes of crime by talking guns. That is what Hillary and Obama use as their distraction. The real causes but take years to ameliorate are: ignorance, poverty, hopelessness and greed, as well as a few other ingredients. Until these are addressed the trend will not be reversed.
    (I think Switzerland has the most guns per capita and among the lowest crime rates).

  5. Peter, while I support your point that guns don’t kill people, you are completely wrong when you say there is no correlation between the amount of guns and crime. You conveniently picked two examples to support your argument. If one were to take a single city in the USA like Chicago as oppose to the entire USA you would see that Chicago have an extremely high homicide rate. Similarly if one were to look at Venezuela, South Africa and Jamaica where illegal guns are prevalent you would also see and extremely high murder rate.

    The availability of guns make it much more easier for persons to commit murders. Unlike a knife or cutlass a person carrying a gun do not require to make close contact to kill anyone so any coward can take a gun and shoot someone. This is precisely what is happening in SVG. If one were to look at countries like the United Kingdom and Japan where guns are very difficult to come by you would notice there are far less murders in those countries.

    In an article in USA Today dated June 16, 2016, Jane Onyanga Omara wrote……. The homicide rate in in England is about 1 for everyone million people according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development………….In a population of 56 million, that adds up to 56 to 60 killings annually. In the USA by contrast there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population……..

    There you have it. while there are other cultural factors at play the presence of guns also plays and extremely important role in homicides. Here are several research that support this argument.

    1) Firearm Availability and Homicide, Hepburn Lisa; Hemengway David, Review Journal, 2004

    2) Across High Income Nations More Guns more homicide, Hemengway David; Miller Mathew, Journal of Trauma, 2000

    3) Across the States More Guns = More Homicides, Miller Mathew; Azrael Debrah; Hemengway, David, American Journal of Public Health, 2002

    All of these studies found that where there are more guns there are more homicides and the propensity for homicide is higher. Lets not try to live in denial about the challenges that confronts our country but try to work together to solve them.

    • Augustus Carr, you make some good points but have some facts wrong. First: you yourself said “illegal guns”. There is a difference when you think that Switzerland has at least 1 gun in every household, some households have more than 10 guns. there are few guns in the UK but the UK (before the refugee crisis) had the highest violent crime rate in Europe, and Switzerland, with the most guns has the lowest crime rate. so your theory of more guns equals more violence is inaccurate. “illegal” guns is another matter altogether, such as you mentioning cities such as Chicago.

  6. Well Nr. PM you know how the guns coming the country, you know why these homicides take place then why not find a solution to these problems. You are leader of this country which means you have the power to provide the resources to combat these problems. So instead of making all these excuses solve the damn problem. Patrol the waters, provide jobs, incarcerate the gang members and drug dealers or maybe you one of them. Do something to show the people of SVG that you care about our damn country.

  7. Well Mr. PM you know how the guns coming the country, you know why these homicides take place then why not find a solution to these problems. You are leader of this country which means you have the power to provide the resources to combat these problems. So instead of making all these excuses solve the damn problem. Patrol the waters, provide jobs, incarcerate the gang members and drug dealers or maybe you one of them. Do something to show the people of SVG that you care about our damn country.

  8. Lostpet I fully agree with your perspective; what many of us in SVG are forgetting is that 17-18 years ago, Ralph Gonsalves promised the nation in an election manifesto that he would be “TOUGH ON CRIME AND THE CAUSES OF CRIME”. Seventeen years later he is NEITHER ‘tough’ NOR does he have any regard for and, perhaps lack of knowledge of the ’causes’ of crime. Yet he is still in office!!!?????

    • Thank You David S. The “still in office” part is a failing of “we the people” for voting for our own poverty. At least a significant number of people that vote for lack of opportunity resulting in poverty and eventually leading to crime.

  9. Friends there is nothing politician can do to stop the killing on our Island. if the politician can do anything then we are saying the Bible is a liar or God is a liar. friends the Bible speak about these things in the last days yet men are telling me politician can solve this problem think again friends. man become lovers of themselves and haters of others these are the last days.

  10. I thought the topic was Ralph’s reply to the killing. Why are some folks branching off into tangents with gun control and what’s happening in other countries? The leader of the country doesn’t care and has no solution to combat crimes. He should resign and pass the position of security to a younger more energetic person. Ralph is old and tired and can’t function properly.

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